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		<title>By: nezua</title>
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		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 03:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup! They were all illegal. Thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: kingfelix</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingfelix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 02:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, did the mock-checkpoint discover any illegal European immigrants?

That would actually demonstrate that there is some unaddressed equivalent problem, comparable to that of illegal immigrants from Latin America.

All you saw is the same indignation that white law-abiding citizens feel when confronted by racial profiling as Latino law-abiding citizens feel. But what is not thus demonstrated is that illegal immigration is fine, but rather that racial profiling is odious.

Then the woman pops up to list her various grievances, including being &#039;undocumented&#039;. Well, without her and the others like her, there&#039;d be no need for racial profiling, would there? There&#039;d be no problem to address. Instead of seeing that, she presents herself as fighting on the right side to a solution to a problem of which she is the driver.

And then, like her, Mr Nezua, you basically characterize your white enemies as suffering some sort of &#039;privilege&#039;, a descriptor that allows you to continually assert that therefore their views automatically disqualify themselves, as they derivce from some form of mental derangement, while your own views, and those of your supporters, magically, are &#039;real&#039; and founded upon timeless truth. This is evident in your replies, which alternate between demanding &#039;respect&#039; and doling out insults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, did the mock-checkpoint discover any illegal European immigrants?</p>
<p>That would actually demonstrate that there is some unaddressed equivalent problem, comparable to that of illegal immigrants from Latin America.</p>
<p>All you saw is the same indignation that white law-abiding citizens feel when confronted by racial profiling as Latino law-abiding citizens feel. But what is not thus demonstrated is that illegal immigration is fine, but rather that racial profiling is odious.</p>
<p>Then the woman pops up to list her various grievances, including being &#8216;undocumented&#8217;. Well, without her and the others like her, there&#8217;d be no need for racial profiling, would there? There&#8217;d be no problem to address. Instead of seeing that, she presents herself as fighting on the right side to a solution to a problem of which she is the driver.</p>
<p>And then, like her, Mr Nezua, you basically characterize your white enemies as suffering some sort of &#8216;privilege&#8217;, a descriptor that allows you to continually assert that therefore their views automatically disqualify themselves, as they derivce from some form of mental derangement, while your own views, and those of your supporters, magically, are &#8216;real&#8217; and founded upon timeless truth. This is evident in your replies, which alternate between demanding &#8216;respect&#8217; and doling out insults.</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; Long live Elena Pavlichenko: Nota Bene #2010-18</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; Long live Elena Pavlichenko: Nota Bene #2010-18</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 05:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] or years after the fact&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;Some were puzzled, many laughed, and a couple were furious&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;How I&#8217;m here, talking to you now, I really don&#8217;t know&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] or years after the fact&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;Some were puzzled, many laughed, and a couple were furious&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;How I&#8217;m here, talking to you now, I really don&#8217;t know&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chicano</title>
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		<dc:creator>chicano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually you bombastic wannabee 1/8th convenient &quot;indian&quot; many Native people on the Rez do speak spanish, in fact many speak mono-spanish. So you are wrong. YOU are not Native that silly argument and native card pulled by all you Europeans is silly. having a native ancestor is different than being native and having a european ancestor somewhere. If you truly where Native you would not be excusing the fact that Europeans are illegally here. Yes there where laws and rules, set forth by Native inhabitants, the various Nation States, Tribal Nations and Clans existing then. Those Rules and Laws where violated to the extremem by European Illegal Scum something any Native would have recognized of the bat, of course that is something you are not. Go back to Europe or shut  up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually you bombastic wannabee 1/8th convenient &#8220;indian&#8221; many Native people on the Rez do speak spanish, in fact many speak mono-spanish. So you are wrong. YOU are not Native that silly argument and native card pulled by all you Europeans is silly. having a native ancestor is different than being native and having a european ancestor somewhere. If you truly where Native you would not be excusing the fact that Europeans are illegally here. Yes there where laws and rules, set forth by Native inhabitants, the various Nation States, Tribal Nations and Clans existing then. Those Rules and Laws where violated to the extremem by European Illegal Scum something any Native would have recognized of the bat, of course that is something you are not. Go back to Europe or shut  up!</p>
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		<title>By: nezua</title>
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		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: Stylist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stylist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing video and great theater as well! I also wholeheartedly agree with you about the need to show the differences in reactions from the to europeans when confronted by brown people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing video and great theater as well! I also wholeheartedly agree with you about the need to show the differences in reactions from the to europeans when confronted by brown people.</p>
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		<title>By: nezua</title>
		<link>http://theunapologeticmexican.org/elmachete/2010/07/29/news-with-nezua-the-illegal-europeans/comment-page-1/#comment-7597</link>
		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Aspasia. For your story and your support. Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Aspasia. For your story and your support. Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Aspasia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aspasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 00:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love, love LOVE this, Nezua! Sad to say, though, I&#039;m not surprised at the negative reaction received from some people at NetRoots who experienced the mock checkpoint. The worst racism and bigotry I&#039;ve experience so far have come from so-called progressives who make assumptions about my ethnicity, my self-identification and my family&#039;s socioeconomic background. When I call them on it, then either silence falls or the stuttering begins. 

I will be sharing this on my Facebook!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love, love LOVE this, Nezua! Sad to say, though, I&#8217;m not surprised at the negative reaction received from some people at NetRoots who experienced the mock checkpoint. The worst racism and bigotry I&#8217;ve experience so far have come from so-called progressives who make assumptions about my ethnicity, my self-identification and my family&#8217;s socioeconomic background. When I call them on it, then either silence falls or the stuttering begins. </p>
<p>I will be sharing this on my Facebook!</p>
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		<title>By: nezua</title>
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		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 21:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angry Commenter: 

You are hilarious. You begin without even introducing yourself in my place, but right away insult me. The person who installed and  maintains the software, who pays for the site you just spent time on. You just breeze in and begin oozing hostility. THEN, you leave off apologizing about what place on the page you dumped your words? It is a very interesting set of social rules you must carry around in your mind. 

Okay. Let me get at your comment. I really wish you&#039;d shown some respect for all readers and broke the paragraph up. It&#039;s much easier on the eyes and the mind. But okay, you are clearly feeling a lot of feelings and just rushing ahead without thinking much about others. I gotcha. 

Hmmmm. Well, I don&#039;t understand what your anecdote is supposed to prove. But thank you for sharing tales about your family with us. I, too, have various stories I could tell you now about family (and friends) of various ethnicities, and guess what? In my story, they will all be &lt;em&gt;against&lt;/em&gt; SB 1070. I will cap off that paragraph by saying &quot;It &lt;strong&gt;is&lt;/strong&gt; about race.&quot;

That&#039;s fun for a minute. But really, I don&#039;t really care to argue law with you. I&#039;m too busy and I don&#039;t like you. But I&#039;m sure there are sites where you can really get into it. Just kinda &quot;mix it up&quot; and stuff. Get all loud and legal. 

What I do know is that Susan Bolton, the judge (not a relative of Michael!) has pretty much taken the legs away from this law you really really like a lot. Sure, it&#039;s being appealed. But for now, the law, as it were, is saying &quot;no go.&quot; Saying something like &quot;Noooooot Constitooooooshunul.&quot; Kinda like a voice in the trees. Carrying a big gavel. 

But yeah. You can argue with Bolton, or whomever, but it won&#039;t be me. 

l am trying to read further through your jazzy blend of anecdote, insult, professions of sadness, and spattering of pseudo-legal argument. It is not easy! Okay...you begin calling people idiots again...False Dilemma tactic...Strawman...hum....Pretending to know how people from my culture should feel, insinuating confusion and self-loathing, well, well well. 

This video really got under your skin, didn&#039;t it? That is clear!

Hmm. I guess I don&#039;t have anything else to type. That&#039;s sorta why I make these videos. 

Thanks again for spending time on my site! Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry Commenter: </p>
<p>You are hilarious. You begin without even introducing yourself in my place, but right away insult me. The person who installed and  maintains the software, who pays for the site you just spent time on. You just breeze in and begin oozing hostility. THEN, you leave off apologizing about what place on the page you dumped your words? It is a very interesting set of social rules you must carry around in your mind. </p>
<p>Okay. Let me get at your comment. I really wish you&#8217;d shown some respect for all readers and broke the paragraph up. It&#8217;s much easier on the eyes and the mind. But okay, you are clearly feeling a lot of feelings and just rushing ahead without thinking much about others. I gotcha. </p>
<p>Hmmmm. Well, I don&#8217;t understand what your anecdote is supposed to prove. But thank you for sharing tales about your family with us. I, too, have various stories I could tell you now about family (and friends) of various ethnicities, and guess what? In my story, they will all be <em>against</em> SB 1070. I will cap off that paragraph by saying &#8220;It <strong>is</strong> about race.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s fun for a minute. But really, I don&#8217;t really care to argue law with you. I&#8217;m too busy and I don&#8217;t like you. But I&#8217;m sure there are sites where you can really get into it. Just kinda &#8220;mix it up&#8221; and stuff. Get all loud and legal. </p>
<p>What I do know is that Susan Bolton, the judge (not a relative of Michael!) has pretty much taken the legs away from this law you really really like a lot. Sure, it&#8217;s being appealed. But for now, the law, as it were, is saying &#8220;no go.&#8221; Saying something like &#8220;Noooooot Constitooooooshunul.&#8221; Kinda like a voice in the trees. Carrying a big gavel. </p>
<p>But yeah. You can argue with Bolton, or whomever, but it won&#8217;t be me. </p>
<p>l am trying to read further through your jazzy blend of anecdote, insult, professions of sadness, and spattering of pseudo-legal argument. It is not easy! Okay&#8230;you begin calling people idiots again&#8230;False Dilemma tactic&#8230;Strawman&#8230;hum&#8230;.Pretending to know how people from my culture should feel, insinuating confusion and self-loathing, well, well well. </p>
<p>This video really got under your skin, didn&#8217;t it? That is clear!</p>
<p>Hmm. I guess I don&#8217;t have anything else to type. That&#8217;s sorta why I make these videos. </p>
<p>Thanks again for spending time on my site! Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 21:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? You&#039;re an idiot.. My mother&#039;s white and from another country. She gets asked to show her documents all the time and does so with no problem. My husband is half hispanic and about half the people he works with are from mexico. All here legally and all in support of Arizona&#039;s law. It&#039;s not about race. It would be more like anyone who&#039;s pulled over that has an accent. If the police take mexicans that can&#039;t show ID but let white people go then there would be a problem but that would be the officers mistake not the law. The law is constitutional because the constitution protects OUR laws and OUR CITIZENS. If you&#039;re not a citizen and don&#039;t like our laws go back to your country. Other countries will shoot illegals crossing borders on site and you whine about showing ID? Really? Also the constitution is the US constitution. If you aren&#039;t a US citizen the constitution doesn&#039;t apply to you so you don&#039;t get those rights. You love our country, opportunities, constitution, so much become a citizen. I agree the immigration is in desperate need of reform. It shouldn&#039;t take years to come to this country, but others have done so and if they have you should have to as well. Anyone who gets pulled over has to show ID or get arrested (at least they&#039;re suppose to, I agree sometimes the officer might let the person go if they haven&#039;t had offenses or it&#039;s a minor thing but again that&#039;s the officers fault). Also I&#039;m native American (Cree) I&#039;m in support of the law as well. To all the people who say all the white people should go back to Europe, because they&#039;re here illegally, you&#039;re idiots. There were no laws on immigration back then there for they didn&#039;t break any laws/do anything illegal. I am saddened by what my people had to go through and how our culture was torn apart, but if you love your culture and language so much and you want to fly the mexico flag while burning the American one go back to mexico. The country you love so much. Also I always thought it was funny when mexicans say, in spanish, that the white people are oppressing them and pushing our culture, laws, language on them. When The only reason they speak spanish is because the Spaniards that came over raped, killed, pillaged, and just about every other thing in the book, but you&#039;re willing to still speak spanish. The true native Americans that belong here (by your standards if the Europeans are illegal) have their own language depending on what tribe they&#039;re from. They do not speak spanish.  

*also sorry about it being a reply to a specific person I was trying to put it as a reply to the video and website not the person or their comment*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? You&#8217;re an idiot.. My mother&#8217;s white and from another country. She gets asked to show her documents all the time and does so with no problem. My husband is half hispanic and about half the people he works with are from mexico. All here legally and all in support of Arizona&#8217;s law. It&#8217;s not about race. It would be more like anyone who&#8217;s pulled over that has an accent. If the police take mexicans that can&#8217;t show ID but let white people go then there would be a problem but that would be the officers mistake not the law. The law is constitutional because the constitution protects OUR laws and OUR CITIZENS. If you&#8217;re not a citizen and don&#8217;t like our laws go back to your country. Other countries will shoot illegals crossing borders on site and you whine about showing ID? Really? Also the constitution is the US constitution. If you aren&#8217;t a US citizen the constitution doesn&#8217;t apply to you so you don&#8217;t get those rights. You love our country, opportunities, constitution, so much become a citizen. I agree the immigration is in desperate need of reform. It shouldn&#8217;t take years to come to this country, but others have done so and if they have you should have to as well. Anyone who gets pulled over has to show ID or get arrested (at least they&#8217;re suppose to, I agree sometimes the officer might let the person go if they haven&#8217;t had offenses or it&#8217;s a minor thing but again that&#8217;s the officers fault). Also I&#8217;m native American (Cree) I&#8217;m in support of the law as well. To all the people who say all the white people should go back to Europe, because they&#8217;re here illegally, you&#8217;re idiots. There were no laws on immigration back then there for they didn&#8217;t break any laws/do anything illegal. I am saddened by what my people had to go through and how our culture was torn apart, but if you love your culture and language so much and you want to fly the mexico flag while burning the American one go back to mexico. The country you love so much. Also I always thought it was funny when mexicans say, in spanish, that the white people are oppressing them and pushing our culture, laws, language on them. When The only reason they speak spanish is because the Spaniards that came over raped, killed, pillaged, and just about every other thing in the book, but you&#8217;re willing to still speak spanish. The true native Americans that belong here (by your standards if the Europeans are illegal) have their own language depending on what tribe they&#8217;re from. They do not speak spanish.  </p>
<p>*also sorry about it being a reply to a specific person I was trying to put it as a reply to the video and website not the person or their comment*</p>
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