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	<description>Where Manifest Destiny Goes to Die</description>
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		<title>By: nezua</title>
		<link>http://theunapologeticmexican.org/elmachete/2009/05/11/return-to-the-root/comment-page-1/#comment-2721</link>
		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 00:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and i think that my &quot;long post&quot; focuses (or tries) less on expectations on my art (and even if it will always be there or not) and simply what obligation/desire I feel to speak out and speak up for people, my people, those who have similar roots, families, feelings...I wouldn&#039;t like it if I were expected to...and I don&#039;t want that particular person to have to do any art they dont want to (again, its not about them), but I&#039;ve played the other side. I&#039;ve done whatever I want with art and all else, and felt no obligation or pressure to engage the injustices against Latinos. For me, and my arc, that is the past. And less evolved. For me, this is where I want to be and feels right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and i think that my &#8220;long post&#8221; focuses (or tries) less on expectations on my art (and even if it will always be there or not) and simply what obligation/desire I feel to speak out and speak up for people, my people, those who have similar roots, families, feelings&#8230;I wouldn&#8217;t like it if I were expected to&#8230;and I don&#8217;t want that particular person to have to do any art they dont want to (again, its not about them), but I&#8217;ve played the other side. I&#8217;ve done whatever I want with art and all else, and felt no obligation or pressure to engage the injustices against Latinos. For me, and my arc, that is the past. And less evolved. For me, this is where I want to be and feels right.</p>
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		<title>By: nezua</title>
		<link>http://theunapologeticmexican.org/elmachete/2009/05/11/return-to-the-root/comment-page-1/#comment-2720</link>
		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 00:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks for explaining what that straitjacket thing meant. Okay, I can see that. No artist wants to be boxed in to anything! 

Judging from the reaction, though, I wonder if they didnt feel confronted by art they were seeing, and felt a need to justify what they were doing which played out in putting down where other people were at. Of course that&#039;s only one way to see it, and not really an important way. What is more important is thinking about how I relate to expectations because I too want to be free. In my art, in who I am.

And I really did appreciate reading your experience in Guatemala. That&#039;s fascinating, interesting. Deep. 

Good to see ya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks for explaining what that straitjacket thing meant. Okay, I can see that. No artist wants to be boxed in to anything! </p>
<p>Judging from the reaction, though, I wonder if they didnt feel confronted by art they were seeing, and felt a need to justify what they were doing which played out in putting down where other people were at. Of course that&#8217;s only one way to see it, and not really an important way. What is more important is thinking about how I relate to expectations because I too want to be free. In my art, in who I am.</p>
<p>And I really did appreciate reading your experience in Guatemala. That&#8217;s fascinating, interesting. Deep. </p>
<p>Good to see ya!</p>
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		<title>By: Kingfelix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingfelix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 00:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The straitjacket thing, I can understand it, I&#039;ve seen it. For some people, art is a form of escape, perhaps, the one zone where the fantasy of a level playing field, a flight from all the crappy everyday stuff, etc, can play out. And, to be fair, it can be disheartening to see that a queer artist might be expected to produce queer art every time, that in trying to broaden your engagement with the culture, that you are simultaneously coming under pressure to produce a particular commodity. 

I&#039;m white and working-class, I&#039;m from the UK. When I was dealing with literary agents, they would say, enthusiastically, that I was going to be marketed as &quot;a new working-class voice&quot; and so on, as if I should be pleased about this. Or they would keep referring to my work as being &quot;political&quot;, which is apparently another word for &quot;truthful&quot; - &quot;Do you market your middle-class writers that way?&quot; was my question. Of course not. But for me, in their eyes, it was some exotic thing, the clever savage, with his gritty tales from the street, speaking the truth etc (when I knew I could make it all up and they wouldn&#039;t know the difference). I think this is the sort of pressure that the black woman is perhaps referencing, when a frame just gets placed around whatever you do to keep it easily identifiable and easily classified. Reading through this long post of yours, it seems that you accept that this frame will always be there, that you can&#039;t wish it away (I am in agreement with you), but perhaps you are at a different point in the evolution of your thinking with regards to creativity and how it mixes with the issues that engage you.

For myself, I have had the opposite problem, that I feel I can&#039;t mix politics with writing fiction, as a white man living in Latin America (Guatemala), because I can&#039;t in good conscience see a way of dramatising my experiences there without &#039;taking control&#039; somehow, or of &#039;stealing&#039; etc, and so, I still debate this, and I still learn from it, but it is a wholly private and internal affair, and my life in Guatemala requires that I suppress all literary production (or seriously consider switching the language I work in, which raises another set of questions), and take a more fact-based approach to the culture. Anyway, this whole issue of how a white man is viewed in Latin America is a whole other question, one that each Guatemalteco/a that sees me in the street must answer for themselves.

Really enjoyed the post. Going to read a few more now, maybe you&#039;ve already covered some of the things I said here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The straitjacket thing, I can understand it, I&#8217;ve seen it. For some people, art is a form of escape, perhaps, the one zone where the fantasy of a level playing field, a flight from all the crappy everyday stuff, etc, can play out. And, to be fair, it can be disheartening to see that a queer artist might be expected to produce queer art every time, that in trying to broaden your engagement with the culture, that you are simultaneously coming under pressure to produce a particular commodity. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m white and working-class, I&#8217;m from the UK. When I was dealing with literary agents, they would say, enthusiastically, that I was going to be marketed as &#8220;a new working-class voice&#8221; and so on, as if I should be pleased about this. Or they would keep referring to my work as being &#8220;political&#8221;, which is apparently another word for &#8220;truthful&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;Do you market your middle-class writers that way?&#8221; was my question. Of course not. But for me, in their eyes, it was some exotic thing, the clever savage, with his gritty tales from the street, speaking the truth etc (when I knew I could make it all up and they wouldn&#8217;t know the difference). I think this is the sort of pressure that the black woman is perhaps referencing, when a frame just gets placed around whatever you do to keep it easily identifiable and easily classified. Reading through this long post of yours, it seems that you accept that this frame will always be there, that you can&#8217;t wish it away (I am in agreement with you), but perhaps you are at a different point in the evolution of your thinking with regards to creativity and how it mixes with the issues that engage you.</p>
<p>For myself, I have had the opposite problem, that I feel I can&#8217;t mix politics with writing fiction, as a white man living in Latin America (Guatemala), because I can&#8217;t in good conscience see a way of dramatising my experiences there without &#8216;taking control&#8217; somehow, or of &#8216;stealing&#8217; etc, and so, I still debate this, and I still learn from it, but it is a wholly private and internal affair, and my life in Guatemala requires that I suppress all literary production (or seriously consider switching the language I work in, which raises another set of questions), and take a more fact-based approach to the culture. Anyway, this whole issue of how a white man is viewed in Latin America is a whole other question, one that each Guatemalteco/a that sees me in the street must answer for themselves.</p>
<p>Really enjoyed the post. Going to read a few more now, maybe you&#8217;ve already covered some of the things I said here.</p>
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		<title>By: nezua</title>
		<link>http://theunapologeticmexican.org/elmachete/2009/05/11/return-to-the-root/comment-page-1/#comment-2704</link>
		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 23:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Louis, I appreciate it. Gotta let ya know, tho I really meant it when I said this isn&#039;t about the person, but the idea. And it may not be the person first you imagine, I don&#039;t know. Might not be the nickname that seems most immediately similar to the examples I invented. 

Either way, despite who it was in my personal story, I think we know the type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Louis, I appreciate it. Gotta let ya know, tho I really meant it when I said this isn&#8217;t about the person, but the idea. And it may not be the person first you imagine, I don&#8217;t know. Might not be the nickname that seems most immediately similar to the examples I invented. </p>
<p>Either way, despite who it was in my personal story, I think we know the type.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Pagan</title>
		<link>http://theunapologeticmexican.org/elmachete/2009/05/11/return-to-the-root/comment-page-1/#comment-2702</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Pagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 23:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...Gotta say, I like this, and past it along in the Twitter world...me thinks even know who it would be.

Ciao,
twitter.com/louispagan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;Gotta say, I like this, and past it along in the Twitter world&#8230;me thinks even know who it would be.</p>
<p>Ciao,<br />
twitter.com/louispagan</p>
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