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	<title>Comments on: Aliens Declare Humanness in New Shepard Fairey Art</title>
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		<title>By: nezua</title>
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		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyway, really, I don&#039;t want to argue these things anymore. I have spoken with Ernesto and am more than happy to do another post drawing out some of the nuances of the situation. Despite all the insults about my MySpace type page here and how I know nothing and am just jealous etc etc, I am very interested in understanding the complexities of a situation. I also am very vested in continuing to underline patterns in culture and society that I feel are harmful or that perpetuate shapes that harm gente. So. That said, this is what I&#039;ll continue to do. You can expect my post in a day or two, I am very busy on many fronts, including more work on The Sanctuary, which will soon go through some really  fantastic changes. Kudos to the ObeyGiant team, flocking to my post relentlessly. You are a loyal bunch for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway, really, I don&#8217;t want to argue these things anymore. I have spoken with Ernesto and am more than happy to do another post drawing out some of the nuances of the situation. Despite all the insults about my MySpace type page here and how I know nothing and am just jealous etc etc, I am very interested in understanding the complexities of a situation. I also am very vested in continuing to underline patterns in culture and society that I feel are harmful or that perpetuate shapes that harm gente. So. That said, this is what I&#8217;ll continue to do. You can expect my post in a day or two, I am very busy on many fronts, including more work on The Sanctuary, which will soon go through some really  fantastic changes. Kudos to the ObeyGiant team, flocking to my post relentlessly. You are a loyal bunch for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: nezua</title>
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		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almanegra:

Well, wait a minute. Please quote me in instances of &quot;trying to spread misinformation&quot; and &quot;suggested false information.&quot; Do you mean because I stated Fairey wanted to stay famous and turn a profit? I know it&#039;s harsh, but why must it be false? &quot;Hard proof&quot; you mention. But can you disprove those motives are not involved? Can this fact not coexist with Ernesto&#039;s excellent contributions and motives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almanegra:</p>
<p>Well, wait a minute. Please quote me in instances of &#8220;trying to spread misinformation&#8221; and &#8220;suggested false information.&#8221; Do you mean because I stated Fairey wanted to stay famous and turn a profit? I know it&#8217;s harsh, but why must it be false? &#8220;Hard proof&#8221; you mention. But can you disprove those motives are not involved? Can this fact not coexist with Ernesto&#8217;s excellent contributions and motives?</p>
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		<title>By: almanegra</title>
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		<dc:creator>almanegra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to call an artist a talentless schmuck and then tell everyone to grow the hell up.

And Nezua,
  I am fine with your critique of the artwork. No one has a place to tell anyone else what is aesthetically pleasing. What I don&#039;t like about your article are the claims about the purpose of this artistic venture, of which you have no hard evidence about and have flat out suggested false informaion. It is fine if you don&#039;t like the piece or even Shepard, Ernesto, or Zach for that matter. Just don&#039;t start trying to spread misinformation that the whole operation was simply driven by a single factor, profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to call an artist a talentless schmuck and then tell everyone to grow the hell up.</p>
<p>And Nezua,<br />
  I am fine with your critique of the artwork. No one has a place to tell anyone else what is aesthetically pleasing. What I don&#8217;t like about your article are the claims about the purpose of this artistic venture, of which you have no hard evidence about and have flat out suggested false informaion. It is fine if you don&#8217;t like the piece or even Shepard, Ernesto, or Zach for that matter. Just don&#8217;t start trying to spread misinformation that the whole operation was simply driven by a single factor, profit.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaminah Hernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaminah Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if this is really ernesto&#039;s work:

1) nope, i don&#039;t see his name anywhere on it.

2) ernesto is a talentless schmuck for creating work that looks so distinctly like shepard fairey&#039;s, student or no. nothing original about making your work match that of your teacher. not impressed.

and really, shut up because your arguments are false and ridiculous. why not just accept that not everyone is gonna like it? why is it so hard for you to deal with people dislikeing it? i don&#039;t have to like it, nezua doesn&#039;t have to like it. last i checked, part of artistic freedom is for others to be able to say they aren&#039;t impressed by someone else&#039;s art. whatever. grow the hell up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if this is really ernesto&#8217;s work:</p>
<p>1) nope, i don&#8217;t see his name anywhere on it.</p>
<p>2) ernesto is a talentless schmuck for creating work that looks so distinctly like shepard fairey&#8217;s, student or no. nothing original about making your work match that of your teacher. not impressed.</p>
<p>and really, shut up because your arguments are false and ridiculous. why not just accept that not everyone is gonna like it? why is it so hard for you to deal with people dislikeing it? i don&#8217;t have to like it, nezua doesn&#8217;t have to like it. last i checked, part of artistic freedom is for others to be able to say they aren&#8217;t impressed by someone else&#8217;s art. whatever. grow the hell up.</p>
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		<title>By: nezua</title>
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		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And constantly editing your comments to say wholly different things is very disingenous. I&#039;ve already replied to your old comments which no longer show. you are wrecking the integrity of the conversation. And, um, &quot;there’s a strange hypocrisy in that.&quot;

You are on moderation so I can be sure your comments stay still long enough to be replied to without changing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And constantly editing your comments to say wholly different things is very disingenous. I&#8217;ve already replied to your old comments which no longer show. you are wrecking the integrity of the conversation. And, um, &#8220;there’s a strange hypocrisy in that.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are on moderation so I can be sure your comments stay still long enough to be replied to without changing.</p>
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		<title>By: nezua</title>
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		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to play that game, yo. Your first question was not &quot;simple&quot; it was a snide passive aggressive move. Secondly, this is mi casa and you aint got no wings here, as Red sed. I can be that kind of snide and on my own stoop it&#039;s called &#039;pride.&#039; Third, it&#039;s not &quot;now&quot; that I&#039;m interested in truth, for crying out loud, I always am. You don&#039;t know me and you&#039;re silly if you think that my next post on it will make you happy or that I even care about that. Anyway, yes. Please go do something else. Hasta lataz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to play that game, yo. Your first question was not &#8220;simple&#8221; it was a snide passive aggressive move. Secondly, this is mi casa and you aint got no wings here, as Red sed. I can be that kind of snide and on my own stoop it&#8217;s called &#8216;pride.&#8217; Third, it&#8217;s not &#8220;now&#8221; that I&#8217;m interested in truth, for crying out loud, I always am. You don&#8217;t know me and you&#8217;re silly if you think that my next post on it will make you happy or that I even care about that. Anyway, yes. Please go do something else. Hasta lataz.</p>
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		<title>By: nezua</title>
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		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, don&#039;t you have a job? I&#039;m never going to get anything done here!

I don&#039;t &quot;admit&quot; to it. Because if you read the post, I never claimed otherwise. You sound like a damn cop, chill. I simply write of the image, which I posted next to it. Which I got news of on a list serv, and presented in the manner I told you already. I have not misrepped myself. And I dont have any reason to revise a damn thing yet anyway. 

If you actually read the last comment, then I have no need to repeat myself. Rest easy, mister commenter. Life will all work out. Be easy! Take a walk, get some air. Thanks, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, don&#8217;t you have a job? I&#8217;m never going to get anything done here!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t &#8220;admit&#8221; to it. Because if you read the post, I never claimed otherwise. You sound like a damn cop, chill. I simply write of the image, which I posted next to it. Which I got news of on a list serv, and presented in the manner I told you already. I have not misrepped myself. And I dont have any reason to revise a damn thing yet anyway. </p>
<p>If you actually read the last comment, then I have no need to repeat myself. Rest easy, mister commenter. Life will all work out. Be easy! Take a walk, get some air. Thanks, really.</p>
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		<title>By: ButchM</title>
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		<dc:creator>ButchM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well alright then. I look forward to seeing your future posts after discussing this with Ernesto.  

I came here asking a simple question and you took an adverse tone with me so snide is as snide does but in the end it works  out, since now you are interested in finding out the real story about this print.

Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well alright then. I look forward to seeing your future posts after discussing this with Ernesto.  </p>
<p>I came here asking a simple question and you took an adverse tone with me so snide is as snide does but in the end it works  out, since now you are interested in finding out the real story about this print.</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>By: nezua</title>
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		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, I appreciate your tenacity. Truth is, though you don&#039;t have to lift all this weight by your lonesome. Ernesto emailed me last night to talk to me. I&#039;ve been too busy, and I called him today. He was out at lunch. So it&#039;s nice that you are doing this, but if there&#039;s facts to be known, then I&#039;ll find them out and of course I&#039;ll comment further. I doubt the call will change my mind about the aspects that bother me, which I listed above. They are visual things that a call can&#039;t undo. (And yes, it&#039;s nice to know that someone like Ernesto was involved, but that doesn&#039;t change the other instances that don&#039;t work for me, as I said.) But of course I&#039;m willing to hear him out, despite asses like you on the same &quot;side&quot; who think being snide in someone else&#039;s place paints them as authoritative. 

Nonetheless, you&#039;ve got me thinking, and I thank you for that. In fact, my next post will thank Shepard for overseeing such projects, and in all honesty, herding us fwd with his helping hand into the era of a new black prez (HOPE) and finally, immigration reform. I think the commenters above such as yourself are right and really we all ought to be grateful for the man&#039;s work. And dammit, I&#039;m not afraid to say so. 

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, I appreciate your tenacity. Truth is, though you don&#8217;t have to lift all this weight by your lonesome. Ernesto emailed me last night to talk to me. I&#8217;ve been too busy, and I called him today. He was out at lunch. So it&#8217;s nice that you are doing this, but if there&#8217;s facts to be known, then I&#8217;ll find them out and of course I&#8217;ll comment further. I doubt the call will change my mind about the aspects that bother me, which I listed above. They are visual things that a call can&#8217;t undo. (And yes, it&#8217;s nice to know that someone like Ernesto was involved, but that doesn&#8217;t change the other instances that don&#8217;t work for me, as I said.) But of course I&#8217;m willing to hear him out, despite asses like you on the same &#8220;side&#8221; who think being snide in someone else&#8217;s place paints them as authoritative. </p>
<p>Nonetheless, you&#8217;ve got me thinking, and I thank you for that. In fact, my next post will thank Shepard for overseeing such projects, and in all honesty, herding us fwd with his helping hand into the era of a new black prez (HOPE) and finally, immigration reform. I think the commenters above such as yourself are right and really we all ought to be grateful for the man&#8217;s work. And dammit, I&#8217;m not afraid to say so. </p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: nezua</title>
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		<dc:creator>nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psst.

Maybe becuz (look up) it&#039;s not on it? I don&#039;t have one in my hand? I never claimed to? Because it was introduced to a &quot;brown&quot; list serv as &quot;Shepard Fairey&quot;s new poster? Because that&#039;s how people are talking about it?

Mix n match. Seriously.

Feel free to address the other points I made, if you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psst.</p>
<p>Maybe becuz (look up) it&#8217;s not on it? I don&#8217;t have one in my hand? I never claimed to? Because it was introduced to a &#8220;brown&#8221; list serv as &#8220;Shepard Fairey&#8221;s new poster? Because that&#8217;s how people are talking about it?</p>
<p>Mix n match. Seriously.</p>
<p>Feel free to address the other points I made, if you like.</p>
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