Comments on: La Santisima Muerte

By: nezua

nezua — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:28:52 +0000

There may be a language issue getting in the way here…plus I’m pretty sarcastic in this post when I talk about Christ. But I want to be clear: I am not against La Santa Muerte, and I do not think either the idea, the icon, or the people who believe in her are bad. In fact I agree that people are being divided and that the slurs and the actions against La Santa Muerte are a tool of an oppressive government, un mal gobierno. Nos vemos…

By: Unkown Sando

Unkown Sando — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:05:37 +0000

So What Christianity has A lot Of Religions And Beliefs that does Not Agree now La Santa Muerte are a other excuse. To separate people and to keep them Ignorant. Now you Say that La Santa Muerte Is Bad
, but if you compare to Blood Trusty Religion Christianity. That Has Been Slaughtering People beliefs Over
A millions of Year and don’t forget The Nazi with the Jewish. As A Mexican People in Mexico have to worry about a other thing than La Santa Muerte.
Cops Use La Santa Muerte as well So Keep Your Facts Strait
And leave My beliefs. Its Against Christ ,no it’s not

By: SeetA

SeetA — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:51:13 +0000

nobody is perfect and there are many imperfect souls(sinners & criminals) who attend churches for forgiveness or healing. soo, why doesn’t the mexican government destroy catholic churches? because it’s all about MONEY BABY and creating a diversion and perhaps trying to appear civilized in the eyes of USA or the global nation!!! i could be wrong but this is how i feel.

By: Blue Kansas

Blue Kansas — Sat, 16 May 2009 21:24:38 +0000

Religion is the opiate of the masses. In the end, it will be the right hand of tyranny. Certainly, the old religion of which Mictecihuatl was in the pantheon helped serve the ruling class in Tenochtitlán.

Having said that, though, the modern-day Catholic opposition to the la Santísima Muerte is just another manifestation of class struggle.

By: DaisyDeadhead

DaisyDeadhead — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:02:19 +0000

Also, I am trying to figure out how those little “day of the dead” figures (I have one with a flower in her hair, dancing!) are related to La Santisima Muerte–I am thinking they are like the old Irish fairies, who were also considered to be dead people (not necessarily the cute, charming pixies of Hallmark greeting cards).

The modern fad of skulls printed on everything, is the pop-culture manifestation of the “day of the dead” fairie-people, I think. Can’t prove that either. (But yes, I do sit around trying to figure out this stuff. )

PS: Check out the BANSHEE–which was also strikingly similar to La Santisima Muerte in her cultural position.

By: nezua

nezua — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:45:55 +0000

fascinating. yes, i found many interesting things along these lines while writing my kids book on egypt. studying horus and all that…

gracias for dropping all la historia! and the post is my pleasure.

By: DaisyDeadhead

DaisyDeadhead — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:41:10 +0000

I am pretty sure that in various places, La Santisima Muerte was partially morphed into Our Lady of Sorrows–and yes, I admit I can’t prove it. But I am on the case! One of my favorite subjects is how pagan female idols were reinterpreted as the Blessed Mother, and therefore are manifestations of her. (Just like Oliver Cromwell always said they were!) This means they were too beloved to destroy or give up, so they were “done over”–but if you examine and study them, you can see the vestiges.

Another possibility: a modern-merging with Our Lady of Perpetual Help (icon) who is very popular in the Philippines… note herethe small archangels that are showing Jesus apparitions of His death. One is holding a cross and the other a spear. Jesus is frightened, so runs to His mother for “help”–and runs so fast, His shoe falls off. As a child, I was fascinated by it! (I can’t think of another icon or presentation that includes supernatural figures signifying death.)

The Black Madonna of Czestochowa was mauled by invaders in the 1400s and the resulting scratches on her face were left intact. Later, people assumed these manifestations of violence were part of the original. So, as “protector of Poland” it was understood that this protection would come at a high price, and during Soviet occupation, was taken as instructive. I think the similarity here is also striking, that she leads people through oppressive times. The fact that she is black, underscored this dramatically to the people of Poland, such as a certain ex-pope who liked her a whole bunch.

I can definitely see elements of the St Raphael and St Jude cults (both of which I have some experience in)–enmeshed in the Santa Muerte movement!

Thanks for a great post. I eat this stuff for breakfast.

By: nezua

nezua — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:07:08 +0000

Rafa, they don’t seem to learn these things. As Mala warns…bad idea…

By: Maegan la Mala

Maegan la Mala — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:41:08 +0000

I’m surprised I haven’t heard more about this in my hood where la santisima muerte is in every botanica window.

This reminds me a little of when Santa barbara was decanonized by the Catholic Church in the late 60’s because her story was “myth” when many say it had to do with her synchronization with the orisha Chango and the strong devotion of his/her followers.

Pero coño smashing santos? People need to watch their espaldas when they mess with the santos and muertos.

By: Rafael

Rafael — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:10:55 +0000

“Cult members”. That sound ominous. Creepy crawlers dudes from the underworld wrecking havoc in the world above.

Seriously, don’t these people know that is is going to backfire, big time?